The territory is huge, there are a lot of bars, snack places, ice cream is very tasty, you can still crush fresh orange yourself, a sea of fruits according to the season, the food is excellent, there are all kinds of meat, fish, dietary nutrition, pomegranate and melon wine, everything is very tasty! The only thing I didn't really like was the narrow beach, but there are a lot of sunbeds on the embankment. The rooms are small, but it's for spending the night, so you wander around the territory all day. The staff is very friendly, Russian-speaking. There are a lot of Russian tourists. There is a water park, a zoo, playgrounds, billiards, cars. There is also a citrus park, it is very cool when everything is covered in lemons, oranges, tangerines.
This is one of the best hotels, in my opinion, for children and food lovers. The beach is great, there are lifeguards. The entire structure of the hotel is very well organized. Complete relaxation for visitors. The staff is very friendly, everyone is smiling. The service is good, the rooms are cleaned every day, with disinfectants. The territory is large, there are many buildings, the neighboring Lonicera premium hotel is also possible to walk. The interior of the hotel is very chic. There is a separate children's club for children, animators are engaged, and active ones. Then there is a minidisko on stage, everyone likes it, both children and adults. There are many places to eat, drink, and have a gym. There are a lot of pools on the territory, everything is well maintained, lifeguards are on duty everywhere. There is an adult animation on the main pool every morning. Fitness, volleyball, tennis . Live music, performances by artists, circus performers, etc. Gozlime is a separate topic, they bake every day, you can order the filling) Your own, quite cool water park. And again, it's just paradise for children). Adult and child are separated. Adults can also ride on the children's bike, it is very convenient. I rode myself, I liked it, I raced with my daughter). I definitely recommend it. I've done it 2 times already. It's hard to find a good hotel, I liked it, I want to come back.
A very good impression of the hotel! The food, the area, the staff - everything is great! Special thanks to Victoria- reception! Thanks to her, we got the number where we wanted! There were gifts from her in the room! I really, really liked everything!!! The animation is awesome! The only bad thing is the extra pounds you've eaten. And yes, things were also lost-a beach dress, then a sweatshirt... Nothing was found. It's unpleasant. And try not to get sick, no one needs us there. I'm talking about the Russians. They don't want to treat us. In the hospital on the territory that is located. As it is, everything is fine. The drunk is normal too! We visited in early September 2024.
Nice hotel. There are many Russian-speaking administrators. A lot of pools, a large area, good animation (some evening performances were really good). A normal room (without broken furniture), good bed linen and towels. Good alcohol (but I'm not an expert here, and my husband was satisfied with the quality). There is a good selection of meat in the food (beef, lamb, turkey, chicken and fish always). There are not enough sunbeds on the beach because of the "morning larks" who take up places and come at lunch. A good water park. There were a lot of Balts on our vacation, and they don't like Russians. In general, a good hotel, where there are a lot of people. Take dried fish with you, there really isn't enough of it))))
We had a vacation in September 2024 with my husband and child.
The territory of the hotel is large and well maintained.
There was a lot of entertainment, since we were with a child, we didn't go anywhere on excursions, but at the same time we found something to do at the hotel and not die of boredom (usually sitting in a hotel is not about us).
The food is good, it usually gets boring at the end of the vacation, but not this time.
I don't say anything about desserts at all, the extra kg that I brought speaks for itself)
Alcohol is normal, there is a choice, but my favorite cocktail is mahito kids)))
Snacks are also great, in general, you can chew something somewhere all day long.make the freshly squeezed juice yourself, the ice cream is delicious.
Not a bad water park.
Room cleaning every day, everything is more or less clean.
The staff is very friendly and tries very hard to do their job perfectly
Of the cons: we didn't like the beach at all ((((it's sooooo small for so many people..occupying a chaise longue and not lying on it is, of course, a problem for almost all hotels and depends on people, but the beach is just tiny, the coastline is narrow, the sun beds are right next to each other...in general, the beach is our disappointment of this hotel((((
We were at a premium-there are fewer people there, but the beach is dirty and rocky
The music is very loud, but they turn it off at 23, so you can be patient.
And the icing on the cake is that we got caught at the Coxsackie Hotel.
A good hotel for a family holiday! A large territory, many pools and a very convenient approach to the sea!
The food leaves much to be desired, a large selection of sweets, which cannot be said about side dishes and snacks. There are a lot of pickles and dishes seasoned with a "specific" sauce that tastes spicy. Fruits and pastries are at a good level.
The staff is friendly and kind, almost everyone speaks Russian well.
We had a rest this year, the reviews are only positive, clean modern rooms, daily cleaning. The food is at the highest level, everything is delicious, varied, the territory is well-groomed, the beach and pools are nearby, cafes for snacks and tea are open almost all day. The beach is clean, despite the fact that the hotel is large and there are a lot of people, there is no congestion, there is no crowd. The staff is almost all Russian-speaking, so there are no problems with communication.
The territory of the hotel is large and beautiful, two swimming pools, a water park, 5 minutes to the sea. The food is varied and there is a lot of it, during the day you can only do what you eat. Entertainment is also available every day for adults, for children, except Sundays. The staff is wonderful, everyone is very friendly, almost everyone knows a little Russian or English if you don't know Turkish. The air temperature at the end of September reached 38 degrees, the water is amazing, very warm and clean.
A great family hotel for families with children. Big greetings to the girls from Kazakhstan who were engaged in children's animation, and constantly worked with children in a mini club. There were so many new and interesting things that we didn't even have time to walk to the big water park to go swimming for 9 days of rest :). The hotel is suitable for those families who come with children. The hotel is for children)))) very tasty food!
I liked a lot, the choice of food is not bad, there are always many types of meat, chicken and turkey, there are also fish, fruits, desserts, coffee disappointed, it was not delicious everywhere!
A huge territory, you can make freshly squeezed juice from oranges, ice cream, a lot of pools, a water park, a zoo, the only minus is that the beach is very, very dense. The beach is sandy, the water is clean and warm, we rested at the end of September.
Great hotel, great animation, food. The territory has a design design, a zoo, sports grounds and a water park. Delicious ice cream, gyuzleme noodles all day long - a paradise for children and adults. The kids' club is great. Evening shows for 5+. I recommend
A good place for a family vacation. A large area is a well-used area with various activities. A wide, long beach. Almost every block has its own pool, which is good. Food, not wow, but you can eat. So, in order to take a break from the routine and fuss, the place is suitable.
The beach is small, but we always found a place. And most importantly , the sand is gentle soft sand , it 's a pleasure to walk on it . The entrance to the water is gentle and it 's very good with children . It 's not scary to go into the sea for either a child or parents . Since this is a bay, there are no big waves and winds. The sunset is gorgeous. We skydived with a child and it was not scary, everything was so competently and safely thought out that the flight turned out to be a pleasure.
Excellent hotel, variety and abundance of food. Helpful and friendly staff. Great animation. The territory is large, everything is well thought out, there is no feeling of a crowd. The sea is magnificent, the sand. I am 100% satisfied with my vacation, I will definitely come back!
A gorgeous, huge hotel. Despite such a huge number of vacationers, no one is disadvantaged. There is plenty of food, and of excellent quality and variety. There are enough bars, pools, and sun beds for everyone. The territory is huge, cozy, and in 11 days we have not bypassed it all. The rooms are not very large, but everything is clean, snow-white bed linen. The beach is large, sandy, clean for children very well.The sea is clear. Animation works all over the territory, the guys are doing well, they are trying. We had a rest from October 17-28, 2024.We will definitely come back here again!!!
A very cool hotel, much cooler than many 5-star hotels! There is everything for every taste! The food is just a bomb: lamb, beef, tongue, liver, duck, mussels, crayfish, sea bass and dorado fish, trout every day, freshly squeezed orange juice, ice cream, pomegranate wine and other delights that I have not met in other hotels.
Live music every evening in the five, in the lobby of the four and in the beach bar, there is also a disco with live music.
The only disadvantage of this hotel is that it is always crowded. And this is understandable, competitors are resting!
An excellent hotel with a huge territory, its own water park and several pools, both open and closed. Private sandy beach, clean, comfortable gentle approach. Due to the fact that it is located in a small bay, it does not bring mud and the sea is calm, even when it is stormy in other areas
The food is excellent. The choice is huge, everything is delicious. Diversity 👍🏻
Good animation, both for children and adults
For children, entertainment for every taste
If you do not leave the hotel, you do not really need money with you, because everything is on site
Of the minuses, not all the rooms have been updated
I really liked the hotel! I advise everyone who doubts 100%. A large area, there is a place to walk, a long coastline, a sandy beach. The food is decent, the choice is huge. A good water park on the territory, for children
We are currently relaxing in this wonderful hotel. We traveled a lot in Turkey as well. Huge, well-maintained territory, excellent service, good varied food. Lots of fun for kids. The price and quality are as consistent as possible. We will also come and advise our friends.
Excellent hotel, different accommodation options, food, territory, entertainment of a 5* hotel, additional features: bottled beer, evening animation in different locations and for different tastes, pastry shop until 00 00. I recommend.
We had a rest in mid-October 2024. We were lucky with the weather, the sea was warm. I liked the hotel, especially the fact that it has its own beach and it is close)) there are not enough sun beds on the beach, but we always found, the food is varied, the rooms are clean, the hotel grounds are pleasant. Of the disadvantages, perhaps only that the water in the pools and the water park is cold. Very. But otherwise it's good) I think we'll be back)
We stayed at this 5* hotel in October 2024! Everything is great! The room is great, big and clean! The balcony is huge! The sea in the second half of October is very warm +28, clean, transparent, my son and we were delighted!daytime weather is +33. There are a lot of people in the hotel. Nutrition is normal. We have already taken a ticket for October 2025, the second half! The place is just a bomb!
I was with the children 8 times, they are delighted, the variety of food is enormous, the beach itself is not wide but very long, the bay and depth can not be better for children, the hotel territory is huge, there are many different pools, the staff is mostly very friendly, the rooms are too old but we go to the sea and not to the room
Not a bad hotel for its category. There is a lot of entertainment for children of all ages. Adults will also find something to do. Animation is on the level. Food and alcohol for 4. Outdated room stock, mold in the shower in some places. The sun loungers on the sea should be replaced long ago.
Excellent price-quality ratio! Clean, cozy, lots of greenery. One of the disadvantages is the smell of sewage in some places on the territory of the hotel. No seafood on the menu.There are not even hooks in the hammam to hang towels, bath-washing accessories. They undressed on the floor...
Without exaggeration, a chic hotel, it fulfills its 5 stars 100%!!! Believe me, there is something to compare it with! The rooms are great, fresh, new, always cleaned. The kitchen is simply gorgeous - the choice of dishes for breakfast, lunch and dinner is beyond praise, the tables are bursting with abundance. There are bars, both with and without alcohol products. A beautiful clean sandy beach, a gentle shore, there are enough sun loungers, your children will be satisfied. There is a water park, various slides, there are enough emotions)) There are also swimming pools, they are not heated, the water is cool at the beginning of the season. There is a mini zoo on the territory, too, it will not be superfluous to visit, especially if you are from the city. There is a Game zona, but all games in it are paid, this is a minus, even air hockey.... In the evenings, there are performances of artists on stage with contests, prizes and dancing, in general, it's not bad, for a change. In general, we were very satisfied, we visited from May 17-23, 2024. It's a pity the video doesn't load, we could show the restaurants and the territory.
In October 2024, we visited this hotel for the second time. There are two hotels in Loniser and 5 and 4 (we can use everything, but the restaurants are different), we rested at 4 in block F (we got into it 2 times). There are bazaars, Migros, hammam and spa outside the territory. I really like it, otherwise we wouldn't have returned. There is a lot of food and varied (meat chicken-beef-lamb, Dorado fish-trout-pink salmon, cold snacks and drinks, grill bar, many different greens, vegetables (baked, fresh), sweets, drinks (tea, coffee, freshly squeezed juices, soda), alcoholic beverages, soups (2 types), gozleme), many bars, free ice cream and fresh juices (self-service), pastry shop. The territory is huge 130 sq.m., a lot of vegetation, everywhere is clean, the territories are monitored, there is a mini zoo. The beach is large, sandy, there are a few cigarette butts, sun beds in 4 rows (free, mattresses, towels and umbrellas are also free), the entrance to the sea is gentle and sandy. The sea is sandy, clean, the hotel is located in a bay, so there are practically no waves and algae, small fish (harmless) swim near the shore. We had a rest with our daughter, there is a children's room (open with a break until 21:00), children's animation on the big stage, the restaurant even has a separate room, a Children's restaurant, a menu for children. There is an adult animation, a different program every evening. The service is perfect, the staff understands Russian (they may not speak, but they understand), attentive, there is no racism by nationality, everyone has the same attitude. There are excellent girls at the reception, all problems are solved relatively quickly (depending on the complexity). The room seemed to be cleaned relatively clean, used shower gels and air conditioning were not always reported. The room has individual air conditioning, kettle, tea-coffee-sugar (also not always reported, had to be brought from the restaurant), TV, free safe, telephone (for internal communication with other rooms and reception).
One big minus for me: it was very difficult to find empty sun beds, several times we huddled on one with our daughter. There are a lot of places where vacationers' things are thrown, but they themselves are not there (in the evening we walked along the seashore and often saw occupied sun beds. Why the staff collects these things in a box of "lost things" is not clear!!
But nevertheless, we plan to return here again for delicious food, beautiful territory, spectacular views.
Finally decided on Turkey, since previously such a vacation was not acceptable, but a child appeared and there was no choice left. We chose the Lonicera World hotel, watched 5u, but chose 4, did not overpay and did not regret it.
The differences between 5 and 4 are the food in the restaurant and the living conditions, although the reviews are also different, music is playing up to 12, which is very uncomfortable with a small child.
I'll start with the advantages that I liked: a large green area, very clean, garbage containers at every step.
Children's entertainment, we didn't go much, as we tried to spend more time at sea, and my daughter is small, excellent for children from 5 years old, various activities in the playroom, children's (paid-10 dollars 20 tokens) attractions, small pools and a water park (we did not go to it for safety reasons).
3 pools with different depths
Varied meals (but exclusively for the amateur)
We were given a room on the 5th floor in the main building with a view of the sea and neighboring hotels, everything tripled, the room is not large, 1 bed and a small sofa.
For people with limited mobility, everything was done very comfortably, we drove our daughter in a stroller, there were no problems with movement at all.
The sea is amazing transparent, small fish swim, we arrived on October 12, it was calm, the water was very warm, gentle sunset, sandy bottom, wonderful for small children.
Every day there were events (dances, performances of artists, etc.).
A large number of bars (alcohol is also one of the differences of the premium, 5 and 4).
4 restaurants (1 paid)
I will move on to the cons:
After cleaning the room, she changed the towels for us, since there were three of us, I asked for 3 towels, but they stubbornly put 2, and the last time they put 1 at all.
The last few days there was a terrible smell of sewage in the toilet, which is not clear, but it was eliminated on the call, the smell reappeared a day later.
The beach is crowded, the sun beds are free only at 7 a.m. on the first line, but in fact it did not bother much, due to the sea it did not seem that there were so many people there.
I'm not a fan of alcohol and we didn't go for that, but the bartenders didn't really try to make cocktails well, since, for example, we were at a premium, we made a milkshake for a child with a shaker, and the word was just poured milk and syrup, the same story for alcohol, the bartender looks at the phone and makes a cocktail, I just after She put it down and left. But the guys were great, they tried to do it according to the recipe and it was very tasty.
According to the food, there was practically no food for my taste for the child (pasta is not delicious, porridges are bland - I added milk, honey and butter and also warmed, since I almost always ate cold, soups are all seasoned, but most likely it is in all hotels in Turkey). Very tasty vegetables (cabbage, peas, corn, beans, carrots).
There are several locations with ice cream (also the difference between 5 and 4, in 5e there are 6 types of ice cream, in 4 -3 types), the ice cream is not bad, you can eat.
There is a bazaar near the hotel, but now it is not profitable for us to buy something there. It sells cheap stuff, fakes, as for me everything is not very high quality, so there is no point in spending money on it.
We took a very tasty Turkish delight by weight, fresh, but very carefully, if you need $ 100, say $ 100, otherwise they impose, and then it comes out at $ 200.
In general, it is worth going to this hotel, the rest left only pleasant impressions.
If you like to work 24 hours a day and eat with your friends, then it's hard to imagine a better place, but we turned out not to be one of them!
Which I really liked:
SEA and beach 1000%
Ice cream and watermelons are endless!
Ayran and traditional pita are very tasty (grandmothers cook in a special gazebo)
Which is not very:
A buffet is when your table neighbors think that this is the last meal of their lives and PILE everything on one plate, allowing the sauces to drip onto the table, and then they can't eat anything and the waiters have to DUMP everything into the slop..
The music screams until exactly 12:00 at night, and if your windows overlook the "musical" side, then it will be difficult to fall asleep with earplugs.
The Internet is not very good, and you can't watch anything on TV at all (when you've already swum and want to watch it a little before going to bed)
In general, the rest is normal, the bad things are erased from memory, and you have already fixed the excellent ones in the photo, so you can recommend it!
The hotel is very cool, there are many restaurants, cafes, etc. there is also a large water park for children and adults. There is also a children's mini club where you can leave your child and they will play and have fun with him
Family, 5 people, 3 children (9, 6, 1 years old).
We were from April 21 to April 29 .
Weather: good, warm, comfortable
The sea is cool, I think it's 19-20 degrees, but the people were swimming, we were also with the children.
The territory of the hotel is large, there is something for adults and children to do.
There is a nice and large water park.
There is free ice cream on the territory of the water park (during the opening hours of the water park).There is also a room opposite the volleyball field where you can squeeze orange juice yourself.
I'm writing about this because no one says from the staff that there are such chips)))
Room stock: in principle, it's fine, not for those demanding repairs and so on. We lived in block B.
Nutrition: for me, it's enough, it's delicious))
But there are no shrimps, lobsters, crayfish, mussels, etc.)))
Staff: friendly, smiling.
We came to rest in November and did not regret it at all. I liked everything, accommodation, service, food, sea, beach, very lucky with the weather, the air temperature during the day plus 25 is very comfortable. The water in the sea is normal, you can swim.
We stopped by on 18.10 in the morning at 9.00. The magic 20 dollars were settled immediately, a room with a full sea view in building B. So far I like everything (except that we take turns with rotavirus). It's good that we didn't take excursions. You can find sun beds on the beach, if early, occupy them for the whole day (maybe for the night). You can walk around the territory. There is ice cream freely available, you can squeeze orange juice yourself. The children have something to do. The food is varied, you can salt less. Alcohol of good quality (pomegranate wine - chymose). There are shops behind the fence. There are Waikiki and migros. The beach is sandy, the approach is very gentle. For grandparents with grandchildren (I mean us) - I recommend it.
Large well-maintained territory. There is a lot of entertainment for every taste.There is an orange orchard. A large water park with slides for children and adults. There are many pools in which there are also slides for children.
There is a lot of food for every taste. Everything is delicious. Lots of bars. There are many cafes for snacks. Food around the clock. The rooms are spacious and clean. The staff is attentive and polite. I really liked the hotel. The rest for children here is just great. There is a lot of entertainment for them. I recommend it to everyone!
Cool hotel. On one large territory there are 4, 5 and Premium (without children). The food is wonderful, the staff is friendly, the beach is sandy, the entrance to the sea is convenient, there are four pools, and a pier from which vacationers feed the fish. Children and their parents will be pleased with a wonderful water park and a children's club where animators work with them. In addition, there is something to do for sports lovers (volleyball, table tennis). There is a small problem with sun beds, because there are not enough of them for all vacationers (people get up early and "occupy" them with towels). The issue of the room key has been solved very conveniently - a key is installed on the hotel bracelet, and there is no need to carry a card with you (you can leave it in the slot and not worry about the temperature in the room). Five minutes from the hotel there are souvenir shops and goods popular with tourists. In general, you will not regret choosing to stay at this hotel.
I liked the hotel very much. For those who like big and noisy 5 keys, this is it. Everyone has something to do. Although, the disadvantages are also present. But the quality of the rooms, service, food, alcohol are on the level. The beach nearby deserves a separate ode. People don't get out of the hearth for an hour! Delight!
Excellent service! The animators at the kids club are holy people) For breakfast, lunch and dinner, there is a huge selection of very diverse dishes.
There are no disadvantages as such. If only a little under the tired room stock
This hotel chain is chic, the food is varied, delicious, the drinks are excellent, the service is good, the rooms are clean, everything is new, the interior is chic. We were in 2024, and we want to come back again
Excellent price-quality ratio. Very tasty food, the first coastline, although the beach is completely packed with sunbeds. Bars, restaurants, gyms, swimming pools. Recommend
A wonderful hotel! It's not the first time we've had a family vacation! I am very pleased that the hotel is being transformed every year, becoming even more comfortable and beautiful!!! I recommend it to everyone!!!
The hotel is wonderful, large territory, lots of pools and restaurants.Its own water park, the room stock is excellent.Evening animations are interesting for both children and adults.
A very good hotel, we were there for the first time, we really liked everything, the territory is huge, the food is excellent, you can eat in two restaurants, entertainment for children, everything is very excellent.
The coolest hotel, the first line, clean sea, sandy beach, a huge territory, its own free water park, several swimming pools, including the Olympic, orange garden, mini zoo, excellent menu and drinks, even
a kindergarten is there. The staff mostly knows Russian. There is enough entertainment on site to avoid buying excursions to other places (well, if only to Cappadocia or Istanbul). Behind the fence there is a large market, a Waikiki store, who needs it, you can take the bus 3 stops to the Time center for 30 liras. There is a decent shopping center and on the other side of the road Neva Outlet with good prices for branded rags, shoes and various souvenirs.
You can take it, you won't regret it. I met a woman who had been there earlier and bought a ticket to a nearby hotel for a change, I was disappointed.
Great hotel! A nice sandy beach with a smooth entrance to the sea. The only drawback is that people occupy sun beds and by 9 a.m. it is already very difficult to find a free place on the beach or by the pools. The food is excellent and varied. Animation for every taste. The staff is friendly, everyone understands Russian. The territory is large, green, lots of greenery and flowers. The rooms were tired, of course, but everything worked and was clean. Cleaning every day, linen was changed every three days. There are all amenities for families with children.
So, first of all, you must understand where you are going. You're going to the anthill! You go to the beach - you step on your heels, they step on your heels. At 9 a.m. on the beach, you will hardly find at least 2 sun beds nearby. The coastline is very narrow, the sunbeds are so close to each other that you will lie and breathe literally on another person, reluctantly participating in their conversations. Everyone is lying there smoking. And they don't care. The sea is good, the setting is beautiful, completely sandy, in good weather the water is perfectly clear.
About the hotel itself. The rooms are patched, the repair of the state department. There is not even a light bulb in the shower, you wash in the dark almost, the light is very dim. The cleaning is not very good, blunder. They won't do anything right until you complain. The food is normal, generally varied. There were fish every day: sea bass, dorado, mackerel, trout. During the 12 days of rest, there were crayfish and mussels 1 time. You won't see squid or shrimp there.
It's not a good diet for children, of course. Literally 2 milk porridges for breakfast. The rest is omelet, cereal. I probably won't say anything about poisoning, it doesn't happen to anyone.. Every third person is probably poisoned in Turkey.
It is still possible to find a table for breakfast / lunch, but it is problematic to find a table for dinner, you can turn circles for a long time.
According to the activity in the hotel, I would say everything is fine: yoga in the morning, gymnastics in the pool, gymnastics was seen once in the sea, then entertainment programs in the pools, in the evening a children's program and then an adult one.
I also liked the children's club on the territory. They study and play with the children.
If you are traveling with children, get ready to leave a good amount on the attractions that are located on the territory of the hotel)) the child will definitely not be able to pass by them)) ride for 10 minutes on a typewriter - 500 rubles. 😁
There are many bars on the territory, the alcohol is local. I can't say anything here, I took it literally 2 times, as for me - one alcohol))
Oh yes, it's also worth mentioning insurance: don't count on it too much - doctors that do not cooperate with insurance companies from Russia on the territory of the hotel)))
Great hotel, incredible amount of great food, comfortable rooms, huge territory. There is a large water park on site for all ages. Children's club, volleyball court. For a family holiday with children, an unambiguous recommendation!
We went twice, the sea, the sand, the child has a place to roam. The territory is large and diverse. The food is fine, the rooms are clean, the staff is polite. What else do you need?!
Awesome hotel! I liked everything very much! Slides in the water park are suitable for any age, but there are few cheesecakes. There is only one "smile", a double one. The water quality in the pools and on the beach is good. No one was poisoned. The beach is clean and well maintained. The food is excellent. The animation is great, there are great shows every night. The room is small, but with a balcony and a dryer, everything is comfortable, everything works as it should. They don't ask for tips. Cleaning every day. I highly recommend it!
great hotel, not enough animation and cool parties.
it's perfect with children there , the company is a little boring
. Don't believe the guides , excursions are 60% generalized .